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birdwatcherIn recent crashes and old ones, in big vehicles and small, in one-car crashes and multiple-vehicle crashes, there is no evidence that car seats do a better job than seat belts in saving the lives of children older than 2. (In certain kinds of crashes -- rear-enders, for instance -- car seats actually perform worse.)
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Date: 2005-07-14 01:04 pm (UTC)Плюс, возможные проблемы из-за "According to the NHTSA manual, more than 80 percent of car seats are improperly installed."
Плюс всевозможные погрешности из-за того, что они смотрят только на тех, кто погиб, а не на всех, кто был на дороге или, хотя бы, на всех, кто попал в какую-нибудь аварию.
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Date: 2007-01-20 04:16 pm (UTC)robust to a wide range of sensitivity analyses, including limiting the sample to crashes in recent years, particular types of vehicles and crash impacts, and focusing only on safety restraints which are being properly used according to police reports."
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Date: 2005-07-14 03:00 pm (UTC)While I agree that most kids should be in carseats, I wish there were an opt-out form, just like there is for claustrophobic adults. Parents should be required to have one in the car and maybe document their attempts to get the child to ride in one (Valya accepted the carseat once we switched to the toddler version), but they should not be required by the state to make their children cry until they are blue in the face just while going to the babysitter.
Surely in our situation driving with a screaming infact (we tried the "crying it out" proposition b/c living in central Indiana without using the car is extremely limiting, and she lasted for more than an hour at 3 weeks old) was much more dangerous for us and other drivers on the road than taking a small risk of going without a carseat.
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Date: 2005-07-14 03:02 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-14 03:09 pm (UTC)I went through a stage of strongly disliking police officers on sight. While rationally I understood that they were just doing a job, emotionally they were the people who hated my baby and wanted to make her cry.
On the plus side, since we did not want to tempt fate and the police force more than absolutely necessary, Scott learned how to do grocery shopping all by himself. :-)
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Date: 2005-07-14 03:13 pm (UTC)Но без Скотта ты просто не могла никуда поехать? Не за рулем же кормить?
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Date: 2005-07-14 03:20 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2005-07-14 03:50 pm (UTC)The big drawabck in NYT article is that they looked at deaths only. It might be that in really bad accident, it wouldn't matter. But what about injuries ? Also, did they startify by age and look at younger vs. older children. "2 and older wearing seatbelt" sounds contradictory - imagine 2-year old with adult seatbelt - a travesty.
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Date: 2007-01-20 04:07 pm (UTC)http://web.archive.org/web/20050828192606/http://www.freakonomics.com/2005/07/more-evidence-on-car-seats-vs-seat.html
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Date: 2005-07-14 05:06 pm (UTC)Дело в том что одна из самых серъезных проблем в дизайне ремней безопасности - сделать так что бы пристегнутый человек не "уплывал" из под ремней вниз и вперед, навстречу всяким неприятно жестким предметам. Для маленького ребенка геометрия ремней, расчитанная на взрослого человека, делает такое "уплывание" совершенно неизбежным, а ремни, соответственно, довольно бесполезными. Поэтому я бы с большой осторожностью относился к статистическим данным, доказывающим обратное.
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Date: 2007-01-20 04:10 pm (UTC)