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What is significant about Friday's repurchase agreements is not so much their size, but the securities that the Fed exchanged for money: mortgage-backed securities (MBS). Indeed, the entire $38 billion dollar injection went to MBS purchases, the largest open market purchase of this asset type ever conducted by the Fed.

Date: 2007-08-13 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ant-fugue.livejournal.com
Thanks for looking it up. So what does that mean? Does it mean that the Fed bought $38 billion dollars worth of mortgages, and now if people default on them, they will default to the federal gvmt, and they will own the homes? Or what? I am not sure, my financial savvy is not good enough to really understand it.

I have been thinking about the interstate commerce question (should congress be able to regulate that?), and I don't really have an answer for you. If I come up with some thoughts, I will let you know. It seems that the present law is allowing us to live in a much more uniform country than it would be otherwise possible or likely.

Date: 2007-08-13 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] averros.livejournal.com
It all boils down to printing $38B. Watch for dollar doing down against other currencies.

Date: 2007-08-13 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] birdwatcher.livejournal.com
Все-таки, можно напечатать 38 миллиардов и купить на них не MBS, а чего попроще.

Date: 2007-08-14 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] averros.livejournal.com
Не, нужно было дать денег правильным друганам.

Date: 2007-08-13 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ant-fugue.livejournal.com
Thanks. NPR said that without that monetary influx, our monetary supply would "freeze up". If they are right and the situation was that dire, i would certainly expect some loss of value in the dollar, sounds like we are mismanaging our financial system.

I should add that all my posts about this subject are questions rather than statements, I have a very vague understanding of how our monetary / financial system works.

Date: 2007-08-14 04:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glocka.livejournal.com
> I have a very vague understanding of how our monetary / financial system works.

No magic here: Fractional Reserve Banking (http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/frb.html)

Date: 2007-08-14 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ant-fugue.livejournal.com
Thanks!

This filled in a few holes. IT's a prejudiced text, but it does have lots of substance as well. I had 2 semesters of college economics, so I have a vague idea as I mentioned before, but when the banking gets really complex, I get confused.

It was interesting to see how FDIC really works... would another solution be breaking in out gold bullion? I guess that would create gold inflation, though.

Date: 2007-08-14 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glocka.livejournal.com
Inflation == injection of more of the same.

So, to create inflation of gold, gold sould be added to circulation. Not as easy task as to print paper money (or manipulate records in database).
When ruling elite wants to prevent enevitable collapse of the paper money based economy, it can allow gold as currency in some limited fasion, for example, "золотой чеpвонец" at one point in Russian history.

Date: 2007-08-14 05:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] averros.livejournal.com
The most concise and readable explanation of monetary systems, past and present, can be found in Rothbard's What has the government done to our money? (http://www.mises.org/money.asp)

It's a thin book, won't take more than a day to read.

(The excerpt from it does seem prejudiced, but only because it relies on things well established in previous text).

Date: 2007-08-14 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ant-fugue.livejournal.com
спасибо, я ознакомлюсь и отпишусь. У меня может занять время прочитать, мы путешествуем.

Date: 2007-08-14 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] averros.livejournal.com
Euro and yen, mostly. Chinese are going to thinking harder about dropping yuan-dollar peg, too.

Date: 2007-08-14 08:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mi-b.livejournal.com
вы бы, прежде чем предсказывать, выяснили, что-ли, в Гугле, кто больше ликвидности впрыснул - ECB или Federal Reserve ;)

Date: 2007-08-14 08:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] averros.livejournal.com
I'm not talking about longer-term, just the short-term effects.

Date: 2007-08-14 09:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mi-b.livejournal.com
так и я про события последней недели ;)

Date: 2007-08-14 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] capka3m.livejournal.com
This means they used my tax money to buy shit on purpose.

Date: 2007-08-14 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] birdwatcher.livejournal.com
Технически, не ваши налоговые взносы, а часть вашего богатства, которую вы разместили в доллары.

Date: 2007-08-15 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] capka3m.livejournal.com
True. They only used my tax money (paying for their operations) to come up with this brilliant idea :)

Date: 2007-08-15 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] birdwatcher.livejournal.com
Заседают они, похоже, тоже на свои кровные. As the nation's central bank, the Federal Reserve derives its authority from the U.S. Congress. It is considered an independent central bank because its decisions do not have to be ratified by the President or anyone else in the executive or legislative branch of government, it does not receive funding appropriated by Congress (http://www.federalreserve.gov/generalinfo/faq/faqfrs.htm), and the terms of the members of the Board of Governors span multiple presidential and congressional terms.

Date: 2007-08-16 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] capka3m.livejournal.com
> The Federal Reserve's income is derived primarily from the interest on U.S. government securities that it has acquired through open market operations. Other sources of income are the interest on foreign currency investments held by the System; fees received for services provided to depository institutions, such as check clearing, funds transfers, and automated clearinghouse operations; and interest on loans to depository institutions (the rate on which is the so-called discount rate). After paying its expenses, the Federal Reserve turns the rest of its earnings over to the U.S. Treasury.

Wow. So, looks like it is funded by the tax levied on all the US$ holders... It prints dollars and derives interest from investing the little extra it printed for itself. Nice racket :)

Date: 2007-08-16 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] birdwatcher.livejournal.com
Именно.